nVIDIA Geforce 860m 4 GB Runs Myth 1.8 like Shit?!

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nVIDIA Geforce 860m 4 GB Runs Myth 1.8 like Shit?!

Postby Renwood » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:27 pm

I now have a newish Laptop. I was looking at a Myth log, and I noticed that Myth 1.8 Build 427 was using my Intel HD 4600 integrated video, (Max like 1600 MB shared system RAM Dedicated to the 4600) was being used. I had not set the global setting to use my nVIDIA Geforce 860m 4GB in the nVIDIA Control Panel. So I changed that global setting to be the 860m. But Myth runs like total shit all choppy and has much less rendering distance then when the intel 4600 HD was selected. I tried both Open GL and Direct 3D. Open GL CRASHES! And Direct 3D runs like shit like I said all choppy and lower max rendering distance. I also cant use the increased max zoom out in films. When I used Direct 3D this is what it said in the Myth Log:

2015-12-01 05:01:08
Myth II Build 427b running under Modern Windows 6.002000 ----------------------------------------------
Loading poweruser.txt... OK.
DEBUG: Updating monolithic tag cache:
Initial count: 186
Number removed: 0
Number added: 0
New count: 186
INFO: ignoring non-required patch file 'Patch 1.4 Interface'
INFO: ignoring non-required patch file 'Patch MariusNet'
DEBUG: Adding 18 monolithic tags:
small install
medium install
large install
international small install
international large install
Patch 1.2
Patch 1.3
Patch 1.4
Patch 1.5
GateofStormsNet
Patch 1.8 Interface
Patch Templates
Jon God's Bungie Map TexturesB5
Magma - Detail Texture Megapack
Bungie Post Release Map Texture
Bogged Down dtex addon
Into the Ghol Lands dtex addon
Gladiators Armageddon Textures
Scanning for software devices...
Found 1 to use
Scanning for Direct3D devices...
Found 1 to use
Scanning for DirectX 11 devices...
Found adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M
Adapter does not support DirectX feature level 10_0; DirectX 11 will not be available.
Found 0 to use
Scanning for 3Dfx devices...
Found 0 to use
Scanning for OpenGL devices...
Found 1 to use
GDI Generic | Microsoft Corporation | OpenGL 1.1
Initializing sound with DirectSound...
Initialized for DirectSound3D using COM
DirectSound initialized successfully.
Warning: Unable to find cutscene 'prologue'.
Establishing connection with metaserver at metaserver.gateofstorms.net:6321...
Connected.
Running Direct3D at 1920 x 1080
Starting mesh "Our Farewell v62 Dec 2015" with 2 plugins...
Our Farewell Tagset b70
local Our Farewell v 64,3 Dec 1
Using 1.8.0 gameplay...
Quitting networked game...
Disconnecting from metaserver.
Warning: Unable to find cutscene 'prologue'.
Establishing connection with metaserver at metaserver.gateofstorms.net:6321...
Connected.
Running OpenGL 1.1 at 1920 x 1080 (VSync ON)
Starting mesh "Our Farewell v62 Dec 2015" with 2 plugins...
Our Farewell Tagset b70
local Our Farewell v 64,3 Dec 1
Using 1.8.0 gameplay...
glGetProcAddress(glActiveTexture) failed!


This is what the myth log said when I tried to use Open GL and it CRASHED as soon at you tried to play a map:

2015-12-01 05:19:21
Myth II Build 427b running under Modern Windows 6.002000 ----------------------------------------------
Loading poweruser.txt... OK.
DEBUG: Updating monolithic tag cache:
Initial count: 186
Number removed: 0
Number added: 0
New count: 186
INFO: ignoring non-required patch file 'Patch 1.4 Interface'
INFO: ignoring non-required patch file 'Patch MariusNet'
DEBUG: Adding 18 monolithic tags:
small install
medium install
large install
international small install
international large install
Patch 1.2
Patch 1.3
Patch 1.4
Patch 1.5
GateofStormsNet
Patch 1.8 Interface
Patch Templates
Jon God's Bungie Map TexturesB5
Magma - Detail Texture Megapack
Bungie Post Release Map Texture
Bogged Down dtex addon
Into the Ghol Lands dtex addon
Gladiators Armageddon Textures
Scanning for software devices...
Found 1 to use
Scanning for Direct3D devices...
Found 1 to use
Scanning for DirectX 11 devices...
Found adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M
Adapter does not support DirectX feature level 10_0; DirectX 11 will not be available.
Found 0 to use
Scanning for 3Dfx devices...
Found 0 to use
Scanning for OpenGL devices...
Found 1 to use
GDI Generic | Microsoft Corporation | OpenGL 1.1
Initializing sound with DirectSound...
Initialized for DirectSound3D using COM
DirectSound initialized successfully.
Warning: Unable to find cutscene 'prologue'.
Establishing connection with metaserver at metaserver.gateofstorms.net:6321...
Connected.
Running Direct3D at 1920 x 1080
Starting mesh "Our Farewell v62 Dec 2015" with 2 plugins...
Our Farewell Tagset b70
local Our Farewell v 64,3 Dec 1
Using 1.8.0 gameplay...
Quitting networked game...
Disconnecting from metaserver.
Warning: Unable to find cutscene 'prologue'.
Replaying film "Last Recording" ...
Running Direct3D at 1920 x 1080
Starting mesh "Our Farewell v62 Dec 2015" with 2 plugins...
Our Farewell Tagset b70
local Our Farewell v 64,3 Dec 1
Using 1.8.0 gameplay...
Quitting replay...
Warning: Unable to find cutscene 'prologue'.
Establishing connection with metaserver at metaserver.gateofstorms.net:6321...
Connected.
Running OpenGL 1.1 at 1920 x 1080 (VSync ON)
Starting mesh "Our Farewell v62 Dec 2015" with 2 plugins...
Our Farewell Tagset b70
local Our Farewell v 64,3 Dec 1
Using 1.8.0 gameplay...
glGetProcAddress(glActiveTexture) failed!


Seems very strange that a dedicated video card (Intel 4600 HD) with only like 1.5 GB of shared system RAM would run the game better then the nVIDIA 860m 4GB Dedicated card. I hope this can be fixed. I can do the debugger build if needed.

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Re: nVIDIA Geforce 860m 4 GB Runs Myth 1.8 like Shit?!

Postby par73 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:36 pm

sounds like your 860 GTX needs some drivers to be updated, the info you provided has said nothing about this option !
i have the same video card btw ! game runs better than ever.

every time i have problems with a program/game running the graphics card I look for updates and the issue has been solved 100%.

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Re: nVIDIA Geforce 860m 4 GB Runs Myth 1.8 like Shit?!

Postby punkUser » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:04 pm

Yeah it looks like you might not even have proper NVIDIA drivers installed... ex.
"Adapter does not support DirectX feature level 10_0; DirectX 11 will not be available."

That card definitely supports FL10 (and 11), so this indicates something is not working with the driver. Similar with OpenGL 1.1. You're not running any of the modern backends here because the driver claims to not support them, so you've got some sort of driver issue.

That said, if it's smooth on your integrated card, there's really no reason not to just use that for Myth. You'll get much better battery life too :)

VRAM is mostly irrelevant to Myth these days... it uses maybe 100-700MB or so max, beyond which it is unused/useless. And most of that memory is not even "hot" so if it falls to DRAM it doesn't even cause issues. Even with the upgrades it is a very old game and even integrated graphics today are an order of magnitude faster than the best discrete solutions when the game was released. ex. you can easily hit 60fps with everything on and extended zoom on an 8" fanless tablet in Myth... your laptop is going to be fine.

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Re: nVIDIA Geforce 860m 4 GB Runs Myth 1.8 like Shit?!

Postby Renwood » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:40 pm

I use the automated nvidia driver updater. I did a clean installation of my video card drivers and got the newest ones. When I set Myth to use the nvidia 860 in control panel instead of the 4600 it likes to crash in game in about 1 second in game. I even had to do a hard reset because nothing would exit the frozen screen of myth at 1 sec. Myth build 427b Crashing in both Direct 3D 11 and OpenGL. So I went back to the 4600...for now?!?! DUN DUN DUUUNNN!


2015-12-01 23:03:00
Myth II Build 427b running under Modern Windows 6.002000 ----------------------------------------------
Loading poweruser.txt... OK.
DEBUG: Updating monolithic tag cache:
Initial count: 178
Number removed: 0
Number added: 1
New count: 179
INFO: ignoring non-required patch file 'Patch 1.4 Interface'
INFO: ignoring non-required patch file 'Patch MariusNet'
DEBUG: Adding 18 monolithic tags:
small install
medium install
large install
international small install
international large install
Patch 1.2
Patch 1.3
Patch 1.4
Patch 1.5
GateofStormsNet
Patch 1.8 Interface
Patch Templates
Jon God's Bungie Map TexturesB5
Magma - Detail Texture Megapack
Bungie Post Release Map Texture
Bogged Down dtex addon
Into the Ghol Lands dtex addon
Gladiators Armageddon Textures
Scanning for software devices...
Found 1 to use
Scanning for Direct3D devices...
Found 1 to use
Scanning for DirectX 11 devices...
Found adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M
Found 1 to use
Scanning for 3Dfx devices...
Found 0 to use
Scanning for OpenGL devices...
Found 1 to use
GeForce GTX 860M/PCIe/SSE2 | NVIDIA Corporation | OpenGL 4.5
Initializing sound with DirectSound...
Initialized for DirectSound3D using COM
DirectSound initialized successfully.
Warning: Unable to find cutscene 'prologue'.
Establishing connection with metaserver at metaserver.gateofstorms.net:6321...
Connected.
Running DirectX 11 at 1920 x 1080 (VSync ON)
Starting mesh "Our Farewell v62 Dec 2015" with 2 plugins...
Myth HD Total Conversion v1.2
local Our Farewell v 64,3 Dec 1
Using 1.8.0 gameplay...
Myth Crashed: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
Attempting Stack Trace...
0 0x6c0e514c ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
1 0x6c0a1939 ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
2 0x6c09f00c ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
3 0x6bfa3625 ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
4 0x6b9a996d ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
5 0x6bf42c10 ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
6 0x6b9cf1ab ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
7 0x6b9ba8f5 ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
8 0x6b9af34d ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
9 0x6b9b5429 ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
10 0x6b9b534d ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
11 0x6bed52b5 ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
12 0x6c1d9a5d ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
13 0x6c1d9b85 ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
14 0x76397c04 ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
15 0x773dad1f ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
16 0x773dacea ? + 0x0000 (?:0)
Stack Trace Complete
Recording Buffers Flushed
Saved Recording To 'Crash- 2015-12-01 23.04.32'

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Re: nVIDIA Geforce 860m 4 GB Runs Myth 1.8 like Shit?!

Postby switch » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:13 pm

no wonder you were lagging.

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Re: nVIDIA Geforce 860m 4 GB Runs Myth 1.8 like Shit?!

Postby punkUser » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:28 pm

Like I said, something is clearly busted in the driver install. Optimus is a source of massive headaches and hackiness and always has been so it's not surprising. Unfortunately there's not much we can do to help you here... you're going to have to speak with NVIDIA. Or if you value your time and sanity, just use the one that works.

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Re: nVIDIA Geforce 860m 4 GB Runs Myth 1.8 like Shit?!

Postby Renwood » Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:09 am

Well thanks for the reply punk. Yea its strange this laptop plays most modern games flawlessly. It would not however, play the Public beta of Star Wars Battlefront in Oct. Some shit about there not being video card drivers made by the motherboard manufacturer that allowed the updated Direct X 11 custom update to work with the newly released battlefront public beta. Something to that effect. Did not care, FucK EA and DICE forever.

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Re: nVIDIA Geforce 860m 4 GB Runs Myth 1.8 like Shit?!

Postby Renwood » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:02 am

THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN RESOLVED!! While looking at the nvidia forums I found this recent hotfix: "359.12-notebook-win8-win7-winvista-64bit-international.hf.exe" This made my geforce 860m 4GB in this laptop work with Myth again! Take a look at this myth Log!:

2015-12-13 00:33:38
Myth II Build 427b running under Modern Windows 6.002000 ----------------------------------------------
Loading poweruser.txt... OK.
DEBUG: Updating monolithic tag cache:
Initial count: 179
Number removed: 0
Number added: 1
New count: 180
INFO: ignoring non-required patch file 'Patch 1.4 Interface'
INFO: ignoring non-required patch file 'Patch MariusNet'
DEBUG: Adding 18 monolithic tags:
small install
medium install
large install
international small install
international large install
Patch 1.2
Patch 1.3
Patch 1.4
Patch 1.5
GateofStormsNet
Patch 1.8 Interface
Patch Templates
Jon God's Bungie Map TexturesB5
Magma - Detail Texture Megapack
Bungie Post Release Map Texture
Bogged Down dtex addon
Into the Ghol Lands dtex addon
Gladiators Armageddon Textures
Scanning for software devices...
Found 1 to use
Scanning for Direct3D devices...
Found 1 to use
Scanning for DirectX 11 devices...
Found adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M
Found 1 to use
Scanning for 3Dfx devices...
Found 0 to use
Scanning for OpenGL devices...
Found 1 to use
GeForce GTX 860M/PCIe/SSE2 | NVIDIA Corporation | OpenGL 4.5
Initializing sound with DirectSound...
Initialized for DirectSound3D using COM
DirectSound initialized successfully.
Warning: Unable to find cutscene 'prologue'.
Running DirectX 11 at 1920 x 1080 (VSync ON)
Starting mesh "Sons of Myrgard" with 2 plugins...
Magma - The Fallen Levels v2
Myth HD Total Conversion v1.2
Using 1.8.0 gameplay...
Quitting single player game...
Warning: Unable to find cutscene 'prologue'.
Running DirectX 11 at 1920 x 1080 (VSync ON)
Starting mesh "The Great Devoid" with 2 plugins...
Magma - The Fallen Levels v2
Myth HD Total Conversion v1.2
Using 1.8.0 gameplay...
@game_time 32800 (18:13) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? found 1 monsters
@game_time 32800 (18:13) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? testing monsters against a closed polygon with 8 points
@game_time 32800 (18:13) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters inside geometry (added to subj)
@game_time 32800 (18:13) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters outside geometry ignored
@game_time 32800 (18:13) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters points inside geometry ignored
@game_time 32800 (18:13) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters points outside geometry ignored
@game_time 32832 (18:14) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? found 1 monsters
@game_time 32832 (18:14) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? testing monsters against a closed polygon with 8 points
@game_time 32832 (18:14) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters inside geometry (added to subj)
@game_time 32832 (18:14) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters outside geometry ignored
@game_time 32832 (18:14) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters points inside geometry ignored
@game_time 32832 (18:14) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters points outside geometry ignored
@game_time 32864 (18:15) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? found 1 monsters
@game_time 32864 (18:15) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? testing monsters against a closed polygon with 8 points
@game_time 32864 (18:15) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters inside geometry (added to subj)
@game_time 32864 (18:15) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters outside geometry ignored
@game_time 32864 (18:15) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters points inside geometry ignored
@game_time 32864 (18:15) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters points outside geometry ignored
@game_time 32896 (18:16) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? found 1 monsters
@game_time 32896 (18:16) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? testing monsters against a closed polygon with 8 points
@game_time 32896 (18:16) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters inside geometry (added to subj)
@game_time 32896 (18:16) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters outside geometry ignored
@game_time 32896 (18:16) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters points inside geometry ignored
@game_time 32896 (18:16) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters points outside geometry ignored
@game_time 32928 (18:17) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? found 1 monsters
@game_time 32928 (18:17) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? testing monsters against a closed polygon with 8 points
@game_time 32928 (18:17) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters inside geometry (added to subj)
@game_time 32928 (18:17) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters outside geometry ignored
@game_time 32928 (18:17) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters points inside geometry ignored
@game_time 32928 (18:17) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters points outside geometry ignored
@game_time 32960 (18:18) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? found 1 monsters
@game_time 32960 (18:18) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? testing monsters against a closed polygon with 8 points
@game_time 32960 (18:18) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters inside geometry (added to subj)
@game_time 32960 (18:18) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters outside geometry ignored
@game_time 32960 (18:18) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters points inside geometry ignored
@game_time 32960 (18:18) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters points outside geometry ignored
@game_time 32992 (18:19) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? found 1 monsters
@game_time 32992 (18:19) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? testing monsters against a closed polygon with 8 points
@game_time 32992 (18:19) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters inside geometry (added to subj)
@game_time 32992 (18:19) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters outside geometry ignored
@game_time 32992 (18:19) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters points inside geometry ignored
@game_time 32992 (18:19) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters points outside geometry ignored
@game_time 33024 (18:20) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? found 1 monsters
@game_time 33024 (18:20) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? testing monsters against a closed polygon with 8 points
@game_time 33024 (18:20) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters inside geometry (added to subj)
@game_time 33024 (18:20) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters outside geometry ignored
@game_time 33024 (18:20) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters points inside geometry ignored
@game_time 33024 (18:20) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters points outside geometry ignored
@game_time 33056 (18:21) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? found 1 monsters
@game_time 33056 (18:21) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? testing monsters against a closed polygon with 8 points
@game_time 33056 (18:21) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters inside geometry (added to subj)
@game_time 33056 (18:21) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters outside geometry ignored
@game_time 33056 (18:21) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters points inside geometry ignored
@game_time 33056 (18:21) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters points outside geometry ignored
@game_time 33088 (18:22) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? found 1 monsters
@game_time 33088 (18:22) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? testing monsters against a closed polygon with 8 points
@game_time 33088 (18:22) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters inside geometry (added to subj)
@game_time 33088 (18:22) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters outside geometry ignored
@game_time 33088 (18:22) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 0 monsters points inside geometry ignored
@game_time 33088 (18:22) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? 1 monsters points outside geometry ignored
@game_time 39616 (22:00) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? found 0 monsters
@game_time 39616 (22:00) ### MA [geom] dwarf at the edge with the head? nothing to test against!
Quitting replay...
Warning: Unable to find cutscene 'prologue'.
Establishing connection with metaserver at metaserver.gateofstorms.net:6321...
Could not connect!
Disconnecting from metaserver.
Closing Myth.

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Re: nVIDIA Geforce 860m 4 GB Runs Myth 1.8 like Shit?!

Postby Psalm 118:22 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:27 am

Ren, please change the title of this post to "Another Good Reason to Buy Apple."


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Re: nVIDIA Geforce 860m 4 GB Runs Myth 1.8 like Shit?!

Postby Renwood » Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:58 am

What? Overpriced, lower performance per $ hardware does not appeal. Also you are 16 years late for the mac vs PC debate.

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Re: nVIDIA Geforce 860m 4 GB Runs Myth 1.8 like Shit?!

Postby wwo » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:14 pm

I think he meant you need your hand held, i.e. you are Apple's demographic.


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